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JOHN McLEOD (1835-1912)

Post by gnstill » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:32 am

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Re: JOHN McLEOD (1835-1912)

Post by EdithBarryMcLeod » Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:35 pm

My husband Barry is a grandson of Norman McLeod B.1870. I have read that John McLeod in 1870 Census lived near his brother Malcolm! but I do not have access at this time to the Census. How is it confirmed that they are brothers, | certainly hope they are, just have never had any of this info before. I just found this site and I am very excited, have been working on this family for a few years and would like to contribute what I do know.

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Re: JOHN McLEOD (1835-1912)

Post by gnstill » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:53 pm

Nice to hear from you Edith!
After re-reviewing my own information I fear I may have put my foot in my mouth with the statement about John’s brother Malcolm. I can’t seem to recall where I arrived at that conclusion, but after another look I found a lot of confusion with several other Malcolms about the same age. I will check further when I get a chance, but I may have to remove that.

It would help if we knew for sure who John McLEOD’s parents were in Scotland. Do you have anything about that?

I have two sons of Norman; Norman Jr. b-1906 and Howard Graham b-1922. Which one is Barry’s father?

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Re: JOHN McLEOD (1835-1912)

Post by EdithBarryMcLeod » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:36 pm

Hi, Barry's father is Norman. John McLeod left a black book that reads oldest son Murdock is named for John's Father, oldest daughter Mary is named for John's Mother, daughter Margaret is named for John's Aunt. That is all we know for now, will keep looking. One of Barry's sisters thinks he came from the Outer Hebrides, but I think this may have come from all of the John McLeods listed with the HBC. I could send a copy of the info in this book to you, there is not a lot but it confirms some of the births and deaths. Keep well, Edith McLeod.

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Re: JOHN McLEOD (1835-1912)

Post by JohnMcLeod1956 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:47 pm

John McLeod - Married to Clementine Harper is my Great Great Grandfather.
I am stalled on my decendant from Manitoba ..Its been difficult to find records of Him or his brother Malcolm. Any one had success?

His son John McLeod Married into the McDonald/Fraser Clans with roots back to Nancy Beaudry and Colin Fraser I can trace back to Simon Fraser on that side. The John McLeod from Scotland is a different story ..so common a name ..

John McLeod. Princeton BC

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Re: JOHN McLEOD (1835-1912)

Post by gnstill » Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:36 am

Welcome aboard John! We need more information about your lineage down from the elder John McLEOD. Who were your Great Grandparents and who were your Grandparents, and when/ where were they born?

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Re: JOHN McLEOD (1835-1912)

Post by JohnMcLeod1956 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:38 am

This is the lineage for my Great Grandfather John McLeod . I have included the reference to him.

Husband: John McLeod Occupation: Furbearer; Farmer B
Born: 08/25/1861 Place: Manitoba
Married: 1886 Place:
Died: 07/14/1938 Place: Fort St. John, B.C.
Father: John McLeod Mother: Clementine Harper
1833 - 1912 M. Grandfather: Thomas Harper (1807-1877)
M. Grandmother: Eliza Cummings

Wife: Flora Bella Ann McDonald
Born: 01/19/1864 Place: Manitoba
Died: 11/27/1927 Place: Edmonton, Alberta
Father: Joseph McDonald Mother: Margaret Fraser
Born: 12/25/1836 Born : 1839
Died:
P. Grandfather Donald McDonald M. Grandfather: Colin Fraser 1805 – 1867
P. Grandmother Jane Beaudry M. Grandmother: Nancy Beaudry (or Gaudry) 1820-1900

Colin Fraser – Father John Fraser born 1760 Mother Isabelle MacDonald

and just for a excellent read an expert from Monica Storrs about my Great Grandfather John Mcleod who became an unordained Minister and lived in the Peace area ( Ft St John and Ft Nelsen BC)

> From the book: Companions of the Peace, Diaries & Letters of Monica Storrs, 1931-1939
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> Page 157 -
> (Saturday) afternoon he (referencing her brother Christopher) and I walked round the coulée to visit old John McLeod. Do you know John McLeod? Well, he's a new friend and a most interesting man who has come to spend the winter with his son Henry McLeod. Henry is our neighbour to the South-West, himself a most attractive half-breed, looking just like a Fennimore Cooper Indian. But John is far more beautiful than Henry. His father was a Highlander, whose kilt and a bit of Scotch turf were buried with him; and his mother was a Cree Indian. He himself is 75 now, about six feet tall and quite broad and upright still. His hair and eyes are black and his skin a clear olive colour. But his features are a fine blend of Highland and Indian; and his face has the beauty of holiness, for John is a devout and enthusiastic Christian...
> He loves talking about the Faith and about his own conversion which took place about 35 years ago. His knowledge of the Bible is wonderful; but although nominally an Anglican he received his spiritual inspiration from some Protestant sect, which has tinged his views with a rigidity quite alien to his most generous and tender heart. For instance, he cannot easily believe that a man can be a Christian who smokes - or that a woman who wears trousers can be saved. And yet this puts all his relations and friends of both sexes into such a precarious position that his heart continually contradicts his mind...
> Presently the grandchildren trickled in from school, delightful looking kids with coal-black hair and eyes and round red faces. We asked John if they could sing a hymn to us, and he and they responded with a will. They sang three or four very long ones from a super Moody and Sankey book; setting the most sacred of words to little jiggly tunes that would make Walford Davies and Harvey Grace pass out right on the spot. But the children sang with such a will, their bright eyes glued to their grandfathers face and catching some of the light of his enthusiasm, that, sitting in that tiny log shack and listening to their little voices and his fervent one, I began to feel it was some of the finest worship yet offered to God in this country.
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Page 190 -
But Prisca brought sad news and that was dear old John McLeod had died. You remember, that fine old half-breed neighbour of ours who was so devout. Well, two days before Camp broke up his sons sent for me (Bruno being on his way down from the Hope). Prisca went instead and spent all the time she could sitting in his little cabin. He had been ailing for some time, but this was clearly the end. She said he lay in a kind of coma while his three grown-up sons star round day and night and allowed no one else to touch him. Occasionally he recognized them and seemed glad to have her (Pricilla) there. Shortly before she had to come away he made a great effort to sing one of the bright little mission hymns he used to teach his grandchildren. But after a line or two his strength failed, and he explained, "I can't sing any more now; but soon I shall sing for all eternity."
After that he didn't speak anymore; but his face grew more and more serene and beautiful and late that night he died.

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Re: JOHN McLEOD (1835-1912)

Post by gnstill » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:17 pm

Thanks very much John. How about your grandfather? Was he by any chance John McLEOD born 1891? Can you tell us more about him and who he married?

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Re: JOHN McLEOD (1835-1912)

Post by JohnMcLeod1956 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:50 pm

These are the Children of John McLeod - My Great Grandfather previously mentioned in this thread. My Grandfather was indeed born in 1891
Sorry for the format Date of births and deaths noted but scrambled but in order .. Spouses are also noted .

Children Sex Born/Died Where Spouse
1. Charlotte F 02/09/1889 Edmonton, Alberta
07/31/1893

2. Jack(John) M 09/26/1891 Edmonton, Alberta Nora ?; *
07/24/1974 Fort St. John, BC

3. Christyne F 05/06/1894 Edmonton, Alberta Frank Savoyard/George Bremner
03/09/1932 Fort St. John, BC

4. Henry M 02/11/1897 Edmonton, Alberta Harriett Bremner
03/01/1977 Fort Nelson, BC

5. Joseph M 03/13/1900 Wabasca, Alberta
05/05/1954 Muskeg Creek, BC

6. William M 07/01/1901 Edmonton, Alberta Mary Bremner
06/02/1937 Rochester, Minnesota, USA

7. Donald M 04/06/1904 Wabasca, Alberta


Notes:
Charlotte is also listed as Sharlott on Census 1891
John worked for the Northwest Fur Company
Jack is listed as John on a number of documents.
* His second wife was Florence Alook

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Name: Flora B McDonald
Name Note:
Gender: Female
Age: 18y
Birth Year: 1863
Birthplace: Manitoba
Marital Status:
Occupation:
Ethnicity: Scottish
Religion: Ch of England
Head of Household Name: Joseph Mcdonald
Born During Last Year:
Event Place: Edmonton, Territories, Northwest Territories, Canada
District Number: 192



Sub-District: R
Division:
Page Number: 36
Household ID: 19375
Family Number: 179
Digital Folder Number: 4467658
Image Number: 00732
GS Film number: 1375921
Affiliate Film Number: C-13285


Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Joseph McDonald M 46y Manitoba
Margaret McDonald F 44y Northwest Territories
Flora B McDonald F 18y Manitoba
Colin J McDonald M 15y Manitoba
Donald McDonald M 13y Manitoba
Isabella McDonald F 8y Northwest Territories
Henry F McDonald M 6y Northwest Territories
Margaret J McDonald F 1y Northwest Territories



Citing this Record:
"Canada Census, 1881," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MV6N-61J : accessed 8 March 2015), Flora B McDonald in household of Joseph McDonald, Edmonton, Territories, Northwest Territories, Canada; citing p. 36; Library and Archives Canada film number C-13285, Library and Archives Canada, Ottawa, Ontario; FHL microfilm 1,375,921.

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Re: JOHN McLEOD (1835-1912)

Post by gnstill » Sun Jan 17, 2016 6:06 am

Thanks very much John. I have created a New Family Page for your Great Grandparents at this link:
JOHN McLEOD (1861-1938)

I look forward to your comments under that Topic.

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