JOHN BALLENDINE (1758-1817)

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New Family Page: JOHN BALLENDINE (1758-1817)

Please post comments and queries about John BALLENDINE and his families here.

[Ryan shelvey]

Not sure but according to what I have John married a native women who's name was Jane, don't have last name for her. They had a daughter named Harriet who married John Richard McKay.

[gnstill]

He married Jane FAVEL, and yes, daughter Harriet married JR McKAY. That’s already in the narrative with links for further info.

[Ryan shelvey]

Sarah McKay was there daughter who married into Kennedy family

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The Ballendens
My name is John Barry Hawthorne. I was born in 1934 in Kimberley, South Africa. I am a retired geologist and my wife (Margaret Joy Farrer b 1935) and I live in the village of Scarborough near Cape Town. We have four children and ten grandchildren.
My mother Lillian Anna Ballenden (1900 – 1984) was directly descended from John Ballenden (1758 – 1817) who was born in Orkney and became the Chief Factor of the Hudson Bay Company in 1798.
Our descent is through John Ballenden’s second son, John McNab Ballenden MD and John Ballenden’s second (bigamous?) wife Eliza Gray (1777 – 1853) whom he married in Orkney in 1797. His first wife was Jane Favell – they married at Brandon House in 1780 and had six children. As far as I know the only son was a William Ballenden.
John McNab Ballenden (1813 – 1895) was born in Orkney and studied medicine at Edinburgh University. Once qualified he moved to the village of Sedgley in Staffordshire were he practised medicine for many years. He married Elizabeth Wilson Jobson (1819 – 1918) They had seven sons and two daughters.
The Ballenden’s second son Christopher Jobson Ballenden (1841 -1948) started medical studies but emigrated to South Africa in 1859, no doubt in search of adventure. He was accompanied by his brother John aged 16.
C J Ballenden married Edith Pauline Chappe (1853-1946) in 1874. The had eight sons & one daughter.
Their eldest son John Laffette Ballenden (1875 – 1952) who married Maude Mary Chalker (1876 – 1948), was my mothers father and my grandfather.

I have done some research on the African branch of the Ballenden family & have found records of about 200 direct descendants of C J Ballenden and hence of John Ballenden. Many are still in southern Africa but a large number have moved on. Some have returned to England whilst others have gone variously to Spain , Argentina, Australia, New Zealand and the USA but none to Canada,


I am hoping that through the Red River Ancestry of Manitoba site I may be able to establish whether or not there are any descendants of John Ballenden & Jane Favell who still bear the Ballenden name, living in Canada at present.
I am also interested in links with descendants of other families closely related or linked to the Ballenden, such as the Favells, McNabs, McLeods, McKays, Bunns, Prudens & Harriotts.

[gnstill]

Hi again John.
Your spelling ‘BALLENDEN’ is of course just another variation of BALLENDINE which seems to be the more common spelling used by Canadian descendants.
You seem to be referring to Jane GRAY’s son John which we have born May 26, 1811 and married to Sarah McLEOD.

Notes for John Ballenden: Source: Furtrade Database, Stan Hulme Research: John is identified in "A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada before Confederation" by Donald Whyte. He is found on page 12 line ID 308. According to this book he was from Stennes Orkney Islands and came through Montreal for employment with the HBC. He is identified in MF page 45 (he is incorrectly placed in this reference as the son of John and Jane Cree where, in fact, he is the son of John and Elizabeth GRAY) as having been born in Stromness and baptized on Jun 26, 1811 at Stromness. In the International Genealogical Index (see notes on Andrew) his date of baptism is given as 6 Jun 1811 at Stromness. He is also identified as John BALLENDINE in the Index, his father is identified as John BALLENDINE, although his mother is still identified as Elizabeth GRAY.

Also check this link: MORE ABOUT JOHN BALLENDEN in HBC ARCHIVES

[Johnbarry]

There is another John Ballandine or Ballenden that I am trying to link to my family.
This one is the father Peter Ballenden (1836-1885) who married Caroline Rowland and died at Battleford
This John B was married first to Mary Humphreville (b 1817) Peter's mother and secondly to Mary Jebb.
Nowhere can I find a link to this John B and to the Ballendens who came from Orkney.
Can anyone help me with this?

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According to my information Peter BALLENDINE’s father was John BALLENDINE, a half-breed who was probably born around 1810. His travels as a voyageur and trader are outlined in the HBC archives. Peter appears to have been his eldest child (b-1836). I have information about his children but, like yourself, cannot be certain of the origins of John BALLENDINE. Which one of his children do you believe you might have links to? Tell us more about your lineage in that regard.

[Johnbarry]

What I am trying to establish is whether or not John Ballandine (Peter's father) and father of 6 other sons by his two wives was related to the John Ballenden who was chief factor of the HBC and whose son ,another John, married Sarah McLeod; these are my Ballenden relatives.
If this relationship can be established then it is possible that some of Peter Ballendines living descendants or those of his siblings could still bear the name Balledine and be related to my family

[gnstill]

Upon further reviewing my info about Peter BALLENDINE’s parents, I have a better understanding of our problem.
The root of the problem seems to be whether Peter was a son of Sarah McLEOD and John BALLENDINE (1810-1856) from Scotland – or is he the son of the Half-breed John BALLENDINE (which you refer to) who was born around the same time?
Hopefully someone out there can help us out with this puzzle.
Meanwhile, I’m interested in where your ancestors fit into this picture?