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WILLIAM COOK (1815-1885)

Post by gnstill » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:32 pm

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Re: WILLIAM COOK (1815-1885)

Post by MIEGUNYAH » Sat Jan 26, 2013 10:10 pm

Gary, In your info about William Cook and Mary Anne Beardy, you mention "around 1861 their daughter Mary Ann married Philip McDONALD, son of Nancy FERGUSON and Donald McDONALD (1797-1876) an HBC voyageur from Scotland". I've been looking for a Donald McDonald whose mother could have been a Mackay (McKay) from Clyne, Sutherlandshire, Scotland. I tried HBC for his Service Records but they said they don't have records for all HBC men. This was one they didn't have. Do you know anything about this Donald McDonald. In Donald Mad Dog McKay's info, he menioned he introduced two of his nephews to the HBC - Donald Sutherlnad and Donald McDonald. A Donald McDonald was a fellow passenger with Donald Sutherland to Scotland on a voyage either 1822 or 1824. Any clues who this Donald McDonald was? Thank you, Pam

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Re: WILLIAM COOK (1815-1885)

Post by gnstill » Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:18 am

I have a Donald McDONALD born 1870 who married Isabella McKAY, daughter of Elspeth McKAY & Selkirk Thomas Douglas McKAY (1815-1878).

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Re: WILLIAM COOK (1815-1885)

Post by MIEGUNYAH » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:47 pm

Thank you Gary. Sorry, the Donald McDonald I'm looking for was in the employ of the HBC and returning to Scotland on 'The Prince of Wales' in 1824, same voyage as my Donald Sutherland with two of his children. The Donald McDonald I'm looking for was a nephew of Donald 'Mad' McKay, i.e. the son of one of Mad McKay's sisters. He would have been born prior to 1800. I'll keep trying, regards Pam

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Re: WILLIAM COOK (1815-1885)

Post by George Johnstone » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:20 pm

1. Eliza MCDONALD was born on 21 January 1877.


--- 2nd Generation ---

2. Philip MCDONALD was born circa 1830 St.Andrews, (Manitoba). He was baptised on 10 June
1830 St.Johns, (Manitoba). He married Mary COOK, daughter of William COOK and Mary Anne
BEARDY, in 1861. He died on 10 August 1918 Bresaylor, (Saskatchewan).

3. Mary COOK was born between 1845 and 1848. She was baptised on 16 April 1848 St.Peters,
(Manitoba). She married Philip MCDONALD, son of Donald 'Little' MCDONALD and Nancy
FERGUSON, in 1861.

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Re: WILLIAM COOK (1815-1885)

Post by MIEGUNYAH » Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:39 pm

George, Do you now the parents of Philip McDonald? My Donald McDonald parents were, I think, unknown female Mackay, sister of Mad Donald McKay and Jean/Jane McKay, mother of Donald Sutherland HBC 1795-1822/24 and would have been of similar age to Donald S. i.e. born 1778 Clyne, Sutherlandshire. Mad Donald McKay said he introduced his nephews Donald McDonald and my Donald Sutherland to the HBC. My Donald Sutherland 'married' Sally, a daughter of Wapusk/Wapisk/Wapask, Cumberland Cree, later called White Bear in Red River Settlement. There is a connection between the Beardys and Wapusk's Band but I'm not sure of the details. The McKay brothers went to North America en masse in the late 1700s. The McKays are well documented, i.e. John Richard McKay etc. HBC have nothing documented on my Donald McDonald but they say some documents are missing. So, parents of Philip please, if you have them in case there is a connection, Many thanks Pam

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Re: WILLIAM COOK (1815-1885)

Post by George Johnstone » Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:20 am

parents pf Philip McDonald:
Donald 'Little' MCDONALD was a blacksmith(Charles D. Denney Papers, Glenbow Archives,
Calgary, Alberta.). He was born circa 1797 Orkney(ibid.). He and Nancy FERGUSON were
married according to the custom of the country before 1825. He was enumerated in the
census in 1828 Red River Settlement. #_, Lot 158, Donald McDonald, age 33, Protestant,
Scotland, 1 married man, 1 woman, 2 sons (-16), 1 horse, 2 cows, 1 ox, 2 calves, 1 swine,
1 cart, 1 plough, 1 harrow, 1 canoe, 1 acre. (1828 E.5/2) page 8(1828C RRS HBCA E5/2 1828
Census of the Red River Settlement, HBCA E5/2, Hudson's Bay Company Archives, Provincial
Archives, 200 Vaughan Street, Winnipeg, MB R3C 1T5, Canada., page 8.). He was enumerated
in the census in 1829 Red River Settlement. #_, Lot _ , Donald McDonald, age 34,
Protestant, Scotland, 1 married man, 1 woman, 2 sons (-16), 1 daughter (-15), 1 house, 1
stable, 1 ox, 3 cows, 2 calves, 5 swine, 1 cart, 1 plough, 1 harrow, 1 canoe, 8 acres.
(1829 E.5/3) page 4(1829C RRS HBCA E5/3 1829 Census of the Red River Settlement, HBCA
E5/3, Hudson's Bay Company Archives, Provincial Archives, 200 Vaughan Street, Winn

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Re: WILLIAM COOK (1815-1885)

Post by MIEGUNYAH » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:21 am

Thank you George. My unknown Mackay/McKay who is mother to my Donald McDonald, as far as I know would have come from near Gordonbush in Clyne, Sutherlandshire, the home area of my McKays. Therefore I don't think he is the McDonald I'm looking for but thank you for your reply, kind regards Pam

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Re: WILLIAM COOK (1815-1885)

Post by George Johnstone » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:18 am

Pam

quite welcome

good luck in your quest!!

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Re: WILLIAM COOK (1815-1885)

Post by gnstill » Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:15 am

George: My information totally agrees with yours on all counts.

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