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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by gnstill » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:44 pm

Welcome aboard Heather! Your doing just fine; only one problem, you’re posting your comments under the wrong topic. In order not to confuse everyone, you should post under this topic; click here: FORUM DISCUSSING PHILIP TURNER (1839-1919)

I have moved your posting there where you are more likely to get responses from people with the same interests. Please continue discussions there.
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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by minnepiper » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:28 pm

Greetings!

Any thoughts on this? I am wondering if my 3x great grandmother Elizabeth (Betsy) Roussain of Mamainse, ON could possibly have been the daughter of this Joseph Turner Sr. Guy.

1871 and 1881 census has her as being born 1818-19. 1861 census at 1826. The "real" Elizabeth is documented elsewhere showing 1823.

1871 census shows a sister Mathilda Turner living with them at Mamainse, who was aged 38. Puts her born about 1833. Mathilda was there at least through 1876 as she was a baptismal witness in parish records.

This Turner guy's HBC biography says he was in the Lake Superior region in 1841-45. Would she have traveled with him as a late teenager?

My Elizabeth married Charles Roussain, a Lake Superior Fisherman and former HBC employee circa 1845 and the First kid was born 1846.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!
Cheers!
dan

P.S. I've done the family finder DNA test so maybe we could see if we match. It says I'm a whopping 4% native.

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by gnstill » Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:13 pm

Welcome to the Forum Dan!

I have a Betsy HOUDE born c1820 who married a Charles ROUSSIN who was born around the same time as the HBC man you are referring to (born c1797 re his HBCA Bio). His daughter Marguerite ROUSSIN married Francois BERARD. They lived in the St Boniface area of Manitoba in the 1870’s. Do those names ring any bells?

Best way to trace your ancestors is to begin with your parents/ grandparents and then work back in time, rather than the other way around. Who, when and where were your grandparents?
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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by minnepiper » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:50 pm

gnstill wrote:Best way to trace your ancestors is to begin with your parents/ grandparents and then work back in time, rather than the other way around. Who, when and where were your grandparents?
I did work backwards and that is how I got here. No that is one of the Duluth Roussain/Roussins. Very confusing because they all share the same first names too. My relation Charles Roussain was, according to family legend Metis and was born and worked out the the Rainy Lake post with his father Francis Roussain.

Well the names, dates, and occupations seemed right, so I thought I would take a stab. Perhaps not the right Turners after all.

Regards,
dan

P.S. I bagpiped at the Selkirk games about 10 years ago and it is a lovely area up there. 8-)

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by MJBrick » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:44 am

Charles and Francois Roussin are metis. They are listed in the Genealogy of the Red River Housholds. Charles born 1803 married to Betsy Houle also metis
Charles ID # is 4254 His religion Roman Catholic . Francois is listed as well born 1833 married to Elsie Courchene she is also Metis. The fact is if these are your ancestors you are metis too. The earliest one Roussin I can see is Baptiste Roussin born 1772 ID # 4252 married to Josephete listed as Indian born1775. Hope this helps.

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by gnstill » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:14 pm

I have posted some updates that you should check out at this link:
JOSEPH TURNER (1783-1865)

Also this subject will be better served by posting your comments at this link which is closer to the target:

FORUM DISCUSSING the JOSEPH TURNER FAMILY

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by Carmen » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:38 pm

Good afternoon,

I have Pearl Weston's book, Across the River - A History of the Turner, Thomson and Campbell Families, in my posession now, as I have borrowed it from my local library.

Ms. Weston has listed Hannah "Anne" Turnor (who married Thomas Humpherville), as being the daughter of Joseph and Emma Turnor, born on October 27, 1806 and baptised on September 17, 1809.

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by gnstill » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:18 pm

Thanks very much for pointing that out Carmen!

You are absolutely right! After another look at my own notes, I found the same info from Pearl West.

Accordingly, I will have to revise and update my page for Philip TURNOR as well as my page for Thomas HUMPHREYVILLE, etc. Please let me know if I miss anything.

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by szandi55 » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:00 pm

Hi, my name is Sandy Turner. My husband's name is Stanley Turner, his father was not related to these Turners. Another long story. He is related to Philip Turnor through Joseph (1783), Philip Jr. (1812), Joseph Alexander (1838), Archibald (1881) to his daughter Georgina (1905) finally to my mother in law Dorothy. I was wondering if any one knows if Philip Turnor had any children by Elizabeth Hallett? Also I noticed that his "country" wife and children go by the last name of Turner. Did any of these children go by the name of Turnor?

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by gnstill » Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:01 am

To begin with, you need to go to this link: JOSEPH TURNER (1783-1865)

Continue discussions at the Topic link provided there.

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