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PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

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Jlwiebe94
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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by Jlwiebe94 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:43 am

If you read Barbara Mitchell’s book “Mapmaker,” you will see that her research indicates that this woman may have been Cree rather than Ojibway

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by bhmitchell » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:40 am

hello rachellelong,
I have no definitive information about Philip Turnor's country wife. In my biography I indicate the information that I have heard/read from other descendants. Turnor's wife could have been from the Moose Factory area, from Brunswick House or from the Abitibi area and the child, Joseph, could have been born in any of those places, sometime between 1782 and 1784. Likely Turnor's country wife was Cree. You say your family "knows" that Turnor's wife is Ojibway. Could you let me know from where this information came? Thanks, Barbara

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by rachellelong » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:59 am

Thank you for your fast reply! My family member Kenny has been working extensively on this family tree. He is away right now but when he gets back I will get a definitive answer. From what I understand is that she is from Waspicogamy House and he has some documentation on it.
Also, I am waiting for my ancestry dna to be completed so hopefully there might be something that comes up from that (fingers crossed).

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by bhmitchell » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:40 pm

Hello rachellelong
Do let me know the source of your information when you can. Wapiscogamy is the earlier name for Brunswick House so your information may be the same as mine.

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by Horsefly » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:03 am

Hello all interested in this forum topic.

I am looking for comment on the topic of Philip Turnor offspring. I am looking for information on John Turnor (1779-1844), Mary Aggathas Kennedy (nee Turnor) (1782-1863) and Hannah (Ann or Annie) Humphreyville (nee Turnor) (b. circa 1790) if they are not offspring of Philip Turnor. A cursory review of information on hand suggests that the timing of birth dates and other available information supports the possibility that these persons are offspring of Philip Turnor and sibling, Joseph Alexander Turner (1783-1865), my maternal line North American born male progenitor.

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Re: PHILIP TURNOR (1751-1799)

Post by bhmitchell » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:36 pm

Hello Horsefly,
In my biography, MAPMAKER, I recognized only Joseph Turnor as the son of Philip Turnor. I did not follow Joseph's history in any depth but may do some more work on that. I also did not follow the lives of any children of Joseph and Emma and there were 13. I only know about Charlotte Turner, 9th born child in 1829. Pearl Weston in ACROSS THE RIVER recognizes Joseph as the son and a "Register of Births" which lists the children of Joseph and Emma [not Good] recognizes Joseph as the son of Philip. I do not know who John Turnor (1779-1844) is. There was a John born to Joseph and Emma in 1842 according to my information. I do not have any information on Hannah (Anne). Mary Aggathas who married Alexander Kennedy could have been a daughter of Philip as suggested on the redriverancestry site although that would mean Philip and his wife had two children within 3 years. Also he was in Abitibi and Brunswick House territory at that time--not Cumberland House where Mary Aggathas settled. I have no knowledge of Philip and Joseph Alexander being brothers and the date 1783 suggests this is Joseph the son. Joseph and Emma named one son Joseph and he was born 1815. I don't imagine that we are going to be able to entangle all of this, but I hope sometime we get more clarity.

Barbara Mitchell

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