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Re: HUGH GIBSON (1780-1869)

Post by sessieloubob » Mon May 09, 2016 7:51 pm

I just found this , going to be looking into this tomorrow, it should state who her parents are.
GIBSON, Anne (wife of Hugh Gibson) - Scrip number 12401 - Amount 160.00$. 1879/01/30. File.
RG15-D-II-8-f. Volume/box number: 1391.
Textual records. [Access: Open]. Government.
Finding aid number: 15-24
Claim No. 2898 St-Anderson affidavit No. 5244 00011081276.

I would like to thank you as well for helping me with this puzzle.

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Re: HUGH GIBSON (1780-1869)

Post by sessieloubob » Tue May 10, 2016 10:26 am

Ordered and should be here in 30 days, I'm excited!

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Re: HUGH GIBSON (1780-1869)

Post by sessieloubob » Tue May 10, 2016 2:14 pm

TITLE/DESCRIPTION: GIBSON, Anne (wife of Hugh Gibson) - Scrip number 12401 - Amount 160.00$.
REFERENCE NUMBER: Money scrip to Métis [textual record] (R190-47-7-E)
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: File part ofMoney scrip to Métis [textual record] (R190-47-7-E)Date(s)1879/01/30Place of creationCanadaExtentInventory no.: 18882Language of materialEnglishConditions of accessTextual records 90: OpenVolume 1391 90: OpenFormer archival reference no. RG15-D-II-8-fFinding aid no.15-24Additional informationClaim No. 2898 St-Anderson affidavit No. 5244SourceGovernmentMIKAN no.4563004

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Re: HUGH GIBSON (1780-1869)

Post by SLang1148 » Tue May 10, 2016 6:43 pm

Ok I think I found another piece that doesn't fit.
  1. 1) The RRS Census for 1827, 30, 31, 32, 33, show Hugh (a) Gibson was born in 1777 to 1781. Hugh (b) Gibson is shown as born in 1890.
    2) The Burial record from 1869 for Hugh Gibson in the Kipling Collection showed that he was 88 years old. This would be birthdate in 1781.
    3) The Gravestone for Hugh and Ann Gibson shows that Hugh died in 1869 at 88 years of age.
    4) Therefore, I've assumed Hugh (a) Gibson (1780-1869) was married to Angelique Chalifoux.

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Re: HUGH GIBSON (1780-1869)

Post by SLang1148 » Tue May 10, 2016 10:20 pm

Some Issues outstanding with the theory that Hugh (a) Gibson's (1780-1869) wife was Angelique Ann Charlifoux.
  1. 1) John Gibson was born when Angelique was only 15. This is quite frequent at this time, so not impossible.
    2) RRS Census 1835 has the oldest Hugh Gibson with 2 males over 16, no males under 16. What happened to Francois and William? I suspect the issue is a transcription error. The number 2 was entered into the wrong column.
    3) Gail Morin's compilation of the RRS Census for 1840 and 43, has only the youngest Hugh (b) Gibson in the 1843 census. I would argue that the 1840 and 1843 census results listed under Hugh (b) Gibson are far more consistent with the 1838 census for Hugh (a) Gibson. How does Hugh (b) go from 1 daughter under 15 to 2 years later having 2 sons under 16 and 4 daughters under 15? And how does he go to 1 daughter over 15 in 1843? I've assumed that the 1840 and 1843 census results listed under Hugh (b) Gibson actually belong to Hugh (a) Gibson.
    4) Who where Hugh (b) Gibson's kids? We have Elizabeth Gibson (1826 - before 1870) and Marie Gibson (1832-1904) that we believe are children of Hugh Gibson but we don't know their mother's name. Elizabeth and her new husband were living with Hugh Gibson in 1840 Census. I've assumed they belong to Hugh (b) Gibson. He had 2 sons under 16 in 1835, but none in 1838. I don't have any clues who they may be. We need research on the baptismal records.

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Re: HUGH GIBSON (1780-1869)

Post by gnstill » Wed May 11, 2016 12:10 am

I got your Email attachments Ken, Thanks – Actually I have an Ancestry.ca membership and can access your LANG FAMILY TREE.
When you boil all this stuff down, we don’t really end up with anything definitive. A lot of erratic false leads but no substantial evidence, just as I try to explain in my narrative (Family Page).
In your own ancestry, where does your lineage fit into the Hugh GIBSON Tree(s)?

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Re: HUGH GIBSON (1780-1869)

Post by SLang1148 » Wed May 11, 2016 9:54 am

I've watched Hugh Gibson for sometime because they lived on the same census pages as the Inksters (on my dad's side). Two years ago, I was at a family funeral and connected with a cousin on my mom's side (very Irish white, very prime and proper farm family) and he mentioned that he was a descendent of Hugh Gibson. I'm always surprised at how much my mom's side and my dad's side of the tree have crossed on the past so I had to chase this down.
I figure that Hugh (a) Gibson is the Great Grandfather of the husband of my 1st cousin once removed. My cousin is a descendent of Francois Gibson.

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Re: HUGH GIBSON (1780-1869)

Post by SLang1148 » Fri May 13, 2016 12:54 pm

I've been looking at the Manitoba Scrip Declarations for Angelique Chalifoux. I count 4 and it brings up the possibility at Ann Chalifoux was NOT Angelique Chalifoux. I just have not had the time to sort it out. I'll keep in touch.

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Re: HUGH GIBSON (1780-1869)

Post by SLang1148 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:24 am

One more piece to the puzzle that doesn't fit. I have 2 Angelique Chalifoux claiming to be children of Michel and Elizabeth.
Angelique Ann Chalifoux 1800-1898 married Hugh Gibson but is referred to as Ann everywhere except, the marriage registration and Sprague and Frye. Angelique Chalifoux 1805- married Alexis Vivier 1808-1876. Both are listed in the 1870 Census so they can't be the same person.
We don't have any support for Angelique Ann Chalifoux being the daughter of Michel and Elizabeth. The 1870 Census says her father is Chalifoux. That's it. I have not found a Manitoba Affidavit for her. For Angelique Chalifoux Vivier 1805 - we have a Manitoba affidavit.

Therefore we have 2 possibilities that could be both true.
Option 1 - Angelique Ann Chalifoux is actually Ann Chalifoux and the Marriage Registration and Sprague are wrong.
Option 2 - Angeligue Ann Chalifoux is not the daughter of Michel and Elizabeth. There were other Chalifoux's in the area.

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Re: HUGH GIBSON (1780-1869)

Post by TCB77 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:33 pm

I am new here but here is more info I found,

It looks like Hugh Gibson & Angelique Ann Anne Chalifoux had 9 children and Angelique died shortly after the move to St Andrews. The 9th and final child would have been Isabella born in May 1828.

Source: https://gfrllocalhistory.files.wordpres ... lot-20.pdf

Angelique Ann Anne Chalifoux on the Edmontons Stragglers list of native wives of fur traders,
Source: https://www.metismuseum.ca/media/docume ... gglers.pdf

HBC records showing Hugh Gibson's children with the Indian woman,
Source: https://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/_doc ... n_hugh.pdf

Hugh married again in 1829 so that would be the marriage record to Christana Indian woman who was baptized 8, Jan 1830.

So I think any records of declarations of Ann Gibson after 1829 would be the wife Christana not Angelique (Maybe she used the name?)

I think Ancestry combined the two wives into one profile,
https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/per ... 8827/story

(Living to 98 & have multiple children in her 40's and at 52 would not be probable)

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