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SAMUEL TAYLOR (1812-1894)

Post by gnstill » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:49 am

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Re: SAMUEL TAYLOR (1812-1894)

Post by gnstill » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:52 am

To Any Interested Person,

Samuel Taylor (1812-1894 amended here to 1811-1894) is not the son of Hudson's Bay Company Servant, James Taylor (1791-1878), as has previously been suggested. He is in fact the only known son of James Taylor, tenant farmer at Holland in the Orkney parish of Firth, in Scotland, and his second wife, Margaret Olay. There is no record of birth for him but his baptism was registered in the books of the united parishes of Firth and Stenness in January 1812 [Registrar General for Scotland, New Register House, Edinburgh, Baptisms Registered at Firth and Stenness, 1732-1819, reference OPR.17/1]. This identification is confirmed by a letter written in 1907 by his second son, the Reverend James Taylor (1850-1924), who speaks of his paternal grandfather as the "Laird of Holland" and his paternal grandmother as “Margaret Oliver, the Widow Goudie". She was in fact Margaret Olay and she had previously been married to a man named Joseph Goudie, with whom she had one child, a son named James Goudie who was born before 15 March 1794 [Orkney Library and Archives, 44 Junction Road, Kirkwall, Orkney, Letter written by James Taylor on 27 December 1907, which is addressed to his cousin, David Rendall, Midgarth, Rendall, Orkney, reference D1/695].

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Neil

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Re: SAMUEL TAYLOR (1812-1894)

Post by gnstill » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:31 am

Thanks again for your enlightenment Neil. Are you a descendant?

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Re: SAMUEL TAYLOR (1812-1894)

Post by Neil » Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:12 pm

Hi Garry,

No, I'm not a descendant of Samuel Taylor but I have two children who are descended from one of his sisters, a lady named Margaret Taylor, who married an Orkney farmer named Nicol Firth. Margaret was the daughter of James Taylor, farmer at Holland in Firth, and his first wife, Margaret Corrigal. She was born before 1 February 1786, the date upon which her baptism was registered at Firth and Stenness [Registrar General for Scotland, New Register House, Edinburgh, Firth and Stenness Baptisms, 1732-1819, reference OPR.17/1]. Coincidentally, the baptism of her second son, John Firth, is recorded on the same page in the baptismal register for Firth and Stenness as that of her younger brother, Samuel Taylor [Registrar General for Scotland, New Register House, Edinburgh, Firth and Stenness Baptisms, 1732-1819, reference OPR.17/1].

Concerning Samuel Taylor's date of birth I should also have said in my first message: His son James (that is the Reverend James Taylor) believed that his father was born on 22 December 1812 [Orkney Library and Archives, 44 Junction Road, Kirkwall, Orkney, Letter written by James Taylor on 27 December 1907, which is addressed to his cousin, David Rendall, Midgarth, Rendall, Orkney, reference D1/695] but, since his baptism was registered at Firth and Stenness on or after 1 January 1812, it might be supposed that he might actually have been born on 27 December 1811, rather than 27 December 1812 [Registrar General for Scotland, New Register House, Edinburgh, Baptisms at Firth, 1732-1819, reference OPR.17/1].

Samuel Taylor had an older brother named William (one of Margaret Corrigal's children) who also served with the Hudson's Bay Company, but he returned home and purchased a small farm in the parish of Rendall. Just exactly when he left Orkney for Canada is not yet clear. but he completed his contract with the Hudson's Bay Company before 18 November 1837 [Orkney Archives, Printed Sasine Abridgements 1831-40 (HMSO), number 318]. This suggests that he should, perhaps, be identified with one of the men of the same name who are mentioned in the records of the Hudson's Bay Company. It cannot yet be regarded as certain but it is possible that he was employed at York Factory in Manitoba during the period 1804-22 and that he is the man named William Taylor who is said by the HBC to have returned to Europe at the end of his contract in 1819. If this is the case the HBC appear to have conflated the records of more than one man of the same name, at least two, perhaps three [Hudson's Bay Company: Biographical Sheet for William Taylor] http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/archives/hbca/ ... illiam.pdf

The printed sasine abridgement mentioned above reads as follows: (318) 31 August 1838. William Taylor, late of Hudson’s Bay Company, now residing in Grimbister, seised, 7 August 1837 - in (1) the room and lands of Midgarth with the kelp shores pertaining thereto, and (2) Park of Tingwall with half of the kelp shores belonging to the lands of Tingwall in the north end of Rendall, formerly part of the estate of Gairsay, parish of Rendall – on disposition by the Trustees of Peter Louttit of Banks, 18 and 22 November 1837. P.R.30.271 [Printed Sasine Abridgements for the Sheriffdom of Orkney, 1831-40, volume 2 (HMSO), RS43/4].

I'm not sure if this information is of interest. I do have more. Perhaps you would let me know if I can help further?

Kind Regards,

Neil

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Re: SAMUEL TAYLOR (1812-1894)

Post by Neil » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:23 am

More on Samuel Taylor (1811 x 1812-1894):

According to his son James (Reverend James Taylor), Samuel Taylor entered the service of the Hudson's Bay Company at Kirkwall on 14 February 1836, in the office of Edward Clouston, and set sail from Stromness on 23 June 1836, on board the ship Prince Albert, which was under the command of Captain Henry Baker. He arrived at Moose Factory in Ontario, Canada, on 2 September 1836. It seems that the Atlantic crossing had taken seventy-two days [Orkney Library and Archives, 44 Junction Road, Kirkwall,Orkney, Letter written by James Taylor on 27 December 1907, which is addressed to his cousin, David Rendall, Midgarth, Rendall, Orkney, reference D1/695].

Kind Regards,

Neil

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