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Re: LOUIS SIMARD (1855-1920)

Post by gnstill » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:39 pm

I just posted a new Family Page that should be of interest; here's the link: LOUIS SIMARD (1882-?)

I could use some help with that one. Some of the details are rather fuzzy.

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Re: LOUIS SIMARD (1855-1920)

Post by wsink2 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:31 pm

Hi Gary, Yes I'm Sharron's cousin. Her mother was my Dad's younger sister. He's the last surviving member of their family (He's 91).

Re John Sinclair. He was born about 1794, the names of his parents unknwn. His age in the 1849 Red River census was listed as 55 years. The baptism record of his daughter Maria in 1829 (St. John's Baptisms 1828-1879) indicated he was a York Factory labourer. He was in Red River in the late 1840s. There is no further record of hime after 1849.

Re his wife Charlotte Sinclair. In Maria's baptism record she is listed as a "half caste" and her name was not recorded. In the 1870 Red River Census she was living with her son Jacob Sinclair in St. Peter's. His father was listed as John Sinclair. This would make him Maria's brother and his mother would be John's wife. The census records Charlotte's father as unknown. She died in 1885 at St. Peter's and her death record listed her as 90 years and her place of birth as York Factory (St. Peter's Burials 1884-1888).

Re Francis Sinclair. Very little is known about him as well. His burial record in 1890 lists his age as 78 and he was born at "Hudson Bay" (St. Peter's Dynevor Burials 1888-1913). He was born about 1812. His place of birth was probably the York Factory area as the 1875 Half-Breed Affidavit of his daughter Harriet records the place of birth in 1842 as York Factory. According to the affidavit Francis moved to Norway House about 1843 and then to Red River the next year. The 1870 Red River Census records Francis' father as unknown.

Re Maria Sinclair. Her burial record lists her age as 78 years and place of birth at York Factory. She was born in 1821. (St. Peter's Dynevor Buriald 1888-1913). The 1870 Red River census lists her father as John Sinclair. She died in 1899 in St. Peter's.

I hope this answers some of your questions re the Sinclair. Warren Sinclair

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Re: LOUIS SIMARD (1855-1920)

Post by gnstill » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:36 am

Sharon & Warren: I have just posted a new Family Page for your grandparents. Check it out at this link:
HENRY JAMES SINCLAIR (1888-1970)

I hope to do a more thorough review of the previous ancestry of this lineage and will post their Family Pages when I get more time late. For now, please post comments & queries in that regard here:
FORUM DISCUSSING the HENRY JAMES SINCLAIR FAMILY

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Re: LOUIS SIMARD (1855-1920)

Post by wsink2 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:42 am

Wives of Louis Simard

Here's the info re Louis Simard that I have:

Louis Simard
Born: 1855 Quebec, the son of Frank Simard and an unknown woman
Married: 3 Feb 1884 at Fort Alexander, Manitoba to Bethsay Cochrane
A second time on 22 Aug 1906 at Fort Alexander, Manitoba to Suzanne Guiond
A third time about 1908 to Flora Favel
Died: 16 Feb 1920 Winnipeg, Mantoba

Bethsay Cochrane
Born: 1856 York Factory, Hudson Bay, the daughter of Taddeus Cochrane and Jeanne Stevenson
Died: Aug 1906 Manigotagan, Manitoba
Buried: 30 Mar 1907 Fort Alexander, Manitoba

Suzanne Guimond
Born: 292 Dec 1884 Fort Alexander, Manitoba, the daughter of Pierre Guimond and Suzanne Finlayson
Baptized: 4 Jan 1885 Fort Alexander, Manitoba
Married: Previously 28 Nov 1894[?] at Fort Alexander, Manitoba to John George Parisien
Died: 1908

Flora Favel
Born: ?
Married: A second time 27 Dec 1921 at Fort Alexander, Manitoba t Xavier Spence. He died 28 May 1938 at Fort Alexander, Manitoba
Di: 2 Dec 1940 Selkirk, Manitoba

Does anybody have a photograph of Louis Simard and know where he is buried?

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Re: LOUIS SIMARD (1855-1920)

Post by wsink2 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:19 pm

Here's what I have on the children of Louis Simard and his wives.

Louis Simard and Bethsay Cochrane

1. Louis Simard
Born: Aug 1883 Moose Creek, Manitoba
Baptized: 3 Feb 1884 Fort Alexander, Manitoba
Married: 12 Sep 1912 at Fort Alexander, Manitoba to Elizabeth Peebles, born1889 Peguis, Manitoba and the daughter of William Peebles and Catherine Ramsay
Died: 19 Jan 1947 Bissett, Manitoba

2. Adelaide Simard
Born: 2 Dec 1885 Bullhead, Manitoba
Baptized: 13 Jun 1886
Died: 1887 Duck Bay, Manitoba

3. Charles Simard
Born: 2 Dec 1887
Baptized: 5 Feb 1888 Fort Alexander, Manitoba
Married: To Margaret Kennedy
Died: July 1935

4. Alexander Simard
Born: 1888
Died: 1912 Kettle Rapids, Manitoba

5. Frank Simard
Born: 24 Dec 1889 Manigotagan, Manitoba
Baptized: 11 Mar 1890 Bad Throat, Manitoba
Married: 28 Jan 1914 at Hole River, Manitoba to Mary Boyd, born 1889 Hole River, Manitoba and the daughter of John Boyd and Marie Madeleine.
A second time to Esther ?
Died: 5 Sep 1949 Winnipeg, Manitoba
Buried: 8 Sep 1949 Manigotagan, Manitoba

6. Catherine Simard
Born: 2 Sep 1895 Manigotagan, Manitoba
Baptized: 13 Oct 1895 Fort Alexander, Manitoba
Married: 2 Mar 1919 to Henry James Sinclair, born 23 Feb 1888 St. Peter's, Manitoba and the son of Andrew Sinclair and Jane Harper. He died 12 Mar 1970 Selkirk, Manitoba
Died: 16 Mar 1975 Selkirk, Manitoba
Buried: 19 Mar 1975 St. Peter's, Manitoba

7. George Simard
Born: 5 Aug 1897
Baptized: 7 Aug 1898 Dog Head, Manitoba
Died: 26 Mar 1901

8. William Simard
Born: 122 Feb 1900
Baptized: Jun 1900 East Dog Head, Manitoba
Married: To Isabel Clark
Died: 16 Dec 1942

9. ? Simard
Born: 3 Mar 1901
Died: 3 Mar 1901

10. Helen Simard
Born: 9 Feb 1903 Rice River, Manitoba
Baptized: 16 Mar 1903 Fort Alexander, Manitoba
Married: To Charles Morin, born 10 Sep 1901 Fort Alexander, Manitoba and the son of Alexander Morin and Frances Bruyere
Died: 1934

11. Henry Simard
Born: 20 Sep 1904 Bad Throat, Manitoba
Baptized: 28 Sep 1904
Married: 12 Sep 1922 at Fort Alexander, Manitoba to Millie Kennedy, the daughter of John George Kennedy and Julia Thomas. She died 1922
Died: 1922

Louis Simard and Suzanne Guimond:

1. Suzanne Simard
Born: 27 Jun 1908 Bad Throat, Manitoba
Baptized: 13 july 1908 Bad Throat, Manitoba
Died: 14 Oct 1908

Louis Simard and Flora Favel:

1. Wilfred Simard
Born: 17 Oct 1909 Bad Throat, Manitoba
Married: 21 Aug 1934 to Mathilda Peterson

2. Hilda Simard
Born: 17 Sep 1914 Bad Throat, Manitoba
Baptized: 20 Mar 1916 Bad Throat, Manitoba
Married: 5 Oct 1931 at Fort Alexander, Manitoba to Peter Morriseau, born 1909 and died 11 July 1980
Died: 5 Mar 1993 Calgary, Alberta

Warren Sinclair

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Re: LOUIS SIMARD (1855-1920)

Post by gnstill » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:00 am

Warren: Thanks very much for all that information (you have obviously been a busy man); it will be an excellent source to refer to in later discussions. There are several details that differ from what I have, but I much prefer to deal with one family (or Family Page) at a time to avoid confusion.

For starters, you have Louis SIMARD married in Fort Alex to Suzanne GUIMOND b-1884 as daughter of Suzanne FINLAYSON & Pierre GUIMOND (1884-1915). I have a Suzanne GUIMOND b-1897 married to Louis SIMARD JR (b-1882)
Widow Susan would have been about 27 years old in 1906. Louis SIMARD SR would have been about 49 years old; Louis SIMARD JR about 24 years old. Both Louis Sr and Louis Jr were widowers, but it seems more likely that the younger Louis was the elligible contender for marriage.

In this regard, please check the following links and comment under the preset Forum Topics provided for each:

FAMILY PAGE for PIERRE GUIMOND (1848-1915)

FAMILY PAGE for LOUIS SIMARD (b-1882)

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Re: LOUIS SIMARD (1855-1920)

Post by wsink2 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:47 pm

Hi Gary, The marriage between Susanne Guimond and Louis Simard Sr was based on 2 sources. In 1972 I did a family tree as a high school project. I interviewed my grandmother, Catherine Simard (Louis' daughter) and she told me Louis was married 3 times: Elizabeth Cochrane, then Susan and then Flora. Louis and Susan were married for 2 years and had a daughter Susan. Re Louis Jr she said he was married twice: first to Mary Cochrane and then Liza Peebles. Keep in mind that my grandmother was alive at the time. the second source was a letter from the Roman Catholic Rectory in Fort Alexander and dated 19 Sep 1974. It varified that Louis Simard had three wives and included a married certificate between Louis and Susanne Guimond. Warren Sinclair

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Re: LOUIS SIMARD (1855-1920)

Post by gnstill » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:56 pm

Boyoboyoboy! You guys have got me pulling my hair out (what’s left of it)! I’m finding a lot of conflicting information about all these families. It will take me a lot of time to review everything properly and sort things out; time that I just don’t have right now. Sorry, but I will have to put this one on the back-burner for a while. When I do come up with some better info, I will get back to you.

I would like you to take a look at something I’m busy at these days that you might be able to help me with. There are several SINCLAIR families involved that you may know something about. Here’s the link:JOHN JAMES STEVENSON (1875-?)

If you do know anything, please post it under the Topic indicated there.

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Re: LOUIS SIMARD (1855-1920)

Post by bthor » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:30 pm

Who is Maggie? or is it suppose to be Betsy?

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Re: LOUIS SIMARD (1855-1920)

Post by gnstill » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:20 am

My mistake Beth; thanks for pointing that out. You're my favorite proof-reader. I meant Betsy and have made the correction.

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